> The point I have been trying to make, which you bugtraqers seem to have > missed, is that my comments had to do with the use of the term > impossible with respect to detecting sniffers. If you had said > infeasible or incredibly expensive, or some other such term, I probably > would not have made my comments. When you say "impossible" in a > scientific context, you had better mean traversing the speed of light or > some such thing, and even then, it's based on some assumptions and > observations and should be qualified (i.e., impossible under the most > widely accepted current epistemology of physics). This is not a scientific list. The context is not scientific. This is a list about security in the real world. > Now, if you could quit wasting your time arguing over this minor point > and get back to tracking bugs, it would probably be more fruitful. > Which brings me to the latest version of Microsoft's spreadsheet > distrubuted with Windows. We were doing a very simple spread sheet by > my standards, and it computed terribly wrong values. When we took the > same spreadsheet and plugged it into 123, it did the right thing. > Anyone have a bug fix? This is not a bug report or bug fix list. This is a list about security in the real world. It is also (mostly) unix and inet-centric. Tim N.